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[vikk]

AnatolyR:

вес 81
начала побаливать связка бицепса у локтя, старая травма

вес понизился и боль появилась?

[AnatolyR]

[vikk]

а без лямок фронтальный присед, просто руки крест -накрест чем не подходит?

[merQ]

vikk
На видео тренер говорит, что нет стабилизации в спине, она круглиться, в итоге заваливаешься вперед, верхняя часть спины не помогает тебе встать с весом и вообще это не очень безопасно для верха спины. Когда его подопечный тянет за лямки, его лопатки сведены и появляется хорошая стабилизация

Сообщение изменено: merQ (10 июля 2011 - 06:24)

[AnatolyR]

merQ:

тренер

Кристиан Тибодо

[AnatolyR]

http://www.ampedtrai...dogma-find-gems

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You should be realizing that if you just get out there and train, instead of worrying about whether you’re training too much or too hard, you might get somewhere. Maybe it’s not too much training that’s responsible for you not getting anywhere.
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If you still subscribe to outdated Hardgainer ideas and the idea that training can be reduced to a mathematical formula based on supercompensation, it’s no wonder you’re offended by even the suggestion of squatting to a max every day. Your ideas on diminishing returns will practically slap you in the face for even considering that more workouts can lead to more progress.
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Somewhere, this is being discussed and someone is whining about it. It won’t work. It can’t work. Most people don’t need that much. Only elites need that much. I don’t know about you, but I’m not content to be mediocre. I’m not content to scrape by on the bare minimum, especially not after the bare minimum has proven itself to cause more injuries and less progress
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The psychological aspect of training — doing what you enjoy, doing what gets results despite the science — has been overlooked, walked over, and stomped into the mud. That needs to stop. Results matter. Enjoying your training matters. The subtle and unquantifiable effects of atmosphere and positive outlook all matter, and they matter more than your choice of workout routine

[AnatolyR]

http://www.jasonwojo.com/

блог Джейсона Вожьо(Jason Wojo)
использующего систему DC

[merQ]

Извиняюсь, что "влезаю", но заодно несколько видео от самого Труделя на его канале: http://www.youtube.com/user/DanteDC

[merQ]

Анатолий, как считаете, DC все-таки больше для силы или для массы (или и то, и другое) ?

[AnatolyR]

merQ:

DC все-таки больше для силы или для массы

DC это не силовая прога
хотя Данте и ставит во главу угла увеличение рабочих весов

при росте массы растёт и сила
сила может увеличиватся независимо от массы

[merQ]

Цель - масса, инструмент - сила, примерно так имеется ввиду?

[AnatolyR]

merQ
одним из основных стимулов гипертрофии считается принцип прогрессии нагрузки
в данном случае прогрессия в весах

[merQ]

AnatolyR
ну Данте и прогрессию в повторах не исключает, что тоже хорошо

[AnatolyR]

поедание углеводов в вечернее время не сделает вас толстыми

[MikeKazakov]

AnatolyR
Я об этом стотысяч лет назад говорил. Англицкие букавки у тебя больше доверия вызывают?

[roma2]

MikeKazakov

MikeKazakov:

Я об этом стотысяч лет назад говорил

[CraZer]

а можно в кратце по русски, а то с английским не в ладах

[AnatolyR]

попробуйте пока это
http://translate.goo...ot-make-you-fat

если будет время переведу

[AnatolyR]

[AnatolyR]

http://www.lift-run-...ck-hitters.html

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Squat and deadlift right out of the gate, and do these more than you bench and curl. I didn't start squatting until I had been lifting for about 5 years. The first few years of squatting and pulling you are trying to figure a lot of shit out, unless you have a good coach. So even if you don't like them, do them.

Get a good coach to teach you how to squat and deadlift properly out of the gate. This will cut off years in the time it takes to achieve upper potential. If your coach is a long ways away, make the drive out every other week. Ask yourself how serious you are.

Stop comparing yourself to other people. You aren't other people. Not only that, stop using other people as examples of what can be done training a certain kind of way. Champions are born, not made.

This also doesn't mean training philosophy doesn't matter. However you need to find out what works well for you through some trial and error. Doc Brown and all....

Don't do movements that cause immediate or delayed "bad" pain. Who said you have to squat? If you aren't a competitive powerlifter, and have physiological issues that keep you from squatting pain free, do things that don't cause pain.

Drink water. It's amazing to me how many people still drink cokes, gatorade, and shit like that all day, then train and say they aren't 100%. No shit kool-aid.

Have goals, and focus on them. Seems simple enough but if you are in the gym or at the track or doing a boot camp and you don't have a clear reason why ("to get in shape" is not really CLEAR) you won't put forth your best effort. Define your goals very clearly. Getting in shape, is not defined. Getting into 32 pants or running a half marathon or deadlifting 600 pounds, these are defined goals and will help you define training.

Enjoy life. Worrying about training when you are not in the gym is stupid. Make your training program and stick with it.

Get your blood work done regularly. People miss this boat too much and an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. Getting detailed blood work done quarterly could easily save your life down the road.

Don't grind on the big lifts too much. This is a sure way to put yourself into the ground quickly and then trying to dig out becomes a pain in the ass. Leave this to the volume junkies who rarely seem to have any real strength.

Build bottom position strength as a priority. Getting strong on the top portion of movements isn't anywhere near as valuable as building strength off the chest, out of the hole, and off the floor. Who cares how strong your three board press is if you can't get it off your chest? Above the knee deadlift work is about as useful as tits on a boar.

Keep training interesting and fun. You can vary things in the same routine with something as simple as varying your warm up poundages. Don't think it matters? Try it.

Add BCAA's to your workouts. It WILL make a difference. I love the Extend. No, not the pinnis pills either.

A quick and easy way to drop some flab over the course of a few weeks is simply to drop carbs in the evening. This works well and your energy levels won't drop very much, if at all.

Learn how to focus internally for a big set. This is will make a world of difference in energy for that set. Jumping around and yelling and acting like a retarded monkey wastes energy. Just because Benni has a routine doesn't mean you need one. Watch him in training; cool as a cucumber, even for the big sets.

Get in shape. Who cares if you can pull 800 and bench 450 if you can't fight for 10 seconds without being gassed. That strength becomes useless once oxygen depth sets in. Then you're weak as shit. Eliminating weak points doesn't just mean for lifting, it means for life god dammit.

Try a thumbless grip on all of your pressing for a while. Some of you may find an immediate increase in your pressing ability. Just make sure if you are benching you have safety rails up. Everyone I know who switched over has a "bar came out" story. For overheads, it's not as big a deal.

Using machines as your main assistance stuff has merit. Machines don't tax you as badly and you can really target weak muscle areas. This is great for injury prevention.

Take an ice bath every other week. This helps recovery very well and cuts down on inflammation.

Do glute and calf work.

When it's time to relax, relax. Learn how to do this. Not just for lifting, but for life and happiness. You'll find plenty of shit to be stressed about later.

Do bent laterals and front raises. Great for shoulder pre-hab.

Lift, run, bang.

[OldBoy]

Категоричный парень, я с ним вчера на пауэрандбулке спорил.

[AnatolyR]

OldBoy:

Категоричный парень

Hey, nobody perfect

[Voice]

AnatolyR

[vikk]

знал бы язык - поспорил

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Keep training interesting and fun.

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Stop comparing yourself to other people. You aren't other people. Not only that, stop using other people as examples of what can be done training a certain kind of way.

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Enjoy life.

об этих вещах в процессе обсуждения программ и копании в биохимии напрочь забывают.

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Worrying about training when you are not in the gym is stupid.

сам дурак когда ещё беспокоится о тренировочной программе, как не в дни отдыха?

астальное ни понял..

[AnatolyR]

vikk:

об этих вещах в процессе обсуждения программ и копании в биохимии напрочь забывают.

есть мотивация->тяжелая работа в зале->результат

[oscar]

Lift, run, bang.

Третью составляющую никто не заметил

[Juicer]

AnatolyR:

есть мотивация->тяжелая работа в зале->результат

Ну, если ориентироваться на высказывание «Отсутствие результата – тоже результат», то да, результат будет в любом случае!

[AnatolyR]

vikk:

когда ещё беспокоится о тренировочной программе, как не в дни отдыха?

я думаю что имеется в виду мысли о том как пройдёт следующая тренировка

oscar:

Третью составляющую никто не заметил

Игорёк всегда об этом знал

[AnatolyR]

Juicer
говорится конечно о том что при отсутвии мотивации и готовности тяжело работать в зале не даст результата даже при самой супер-дупер программе
и наоборот: наличие мотивации при не самой идиотской программе может дать неплохой результат

[AnatolyR]

хе-хе...
http://www.strstd.com/